M: What happened after the "Brazilian modernism"?

B: In the '90s, the Campana brothers represented the chaos of the country in their own aesthetic, using materials and textures that were found around, combining them together in single pieces. The industry was not present, so the designers didn't have support with production, it was all self-made. Repetition, excess, this new style was coming directly from the people, if you look at a chair from the Campana brothers, you can see this repetition of an element that becomes a bigger texture, becoming exaggerated, just like Brazil. I have some friends that would like to have a minimal style, but I think it's impossible to be Brazilian and be minimal.

M: I noticed a common approach to the seating, almost all the designs of chairs and sittings are wide and comfortable, almost like they want to express this relaxed and chilled way of living life in Brasil.

B: Yes it’s common to see this posture in Brazilian chairs, a part of the stereotype that Brazilian bodies have, we do have a relaxed lifestyle, especially in Rio.